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Rudi
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Methinks we should just write English as it was meant to be written (or, alternatively, German, Spanish, French, etc). The point of writing is to be understood and I'm sorry Kavin, but between all of the bullshit vocabulary, the lack of punctuation, the unclear abbreviations, and the hyperlinks, it is impossible to understand you.

Please take a deep breath and start with a capital letter and finish with a full stop and use whatever language you wish in between. Please though, make sure people stand a chance of understanding what it is you want to say.

ROW English my arse.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually understanding Kavin was sort of the same reaction as understanding German... One day I just realized while reading his comments they were perfectly clear, so now I can say I am multilingual.

Keep on Kavin you are unique and we like you just the way you are. Big Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rudi wrote:
... The point of writing is...
Point Taken, TnQ (& Immer too).

Rudi wrote:
...ROW English my arse.
all (y)our's (un)common-wealth Mr. Green
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Rudi
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kavin.

I really don't mind what language you choose to speak/write. Nor do I question your right to speak/write it. However, out of respect for your readers and out of respect for your own ideas, it might be preferable to choose a language that everyone can understand. In this particular context, English is probably the best option.

I disparagingly referred to ROW English because in my opinion it is nonsense. Writing nonintelligble mumbo-jumbo does not constitute a language or even an effective medium of communication. I love the richness and colour of regional diversity in the English language, but that only works when the basics of the language (including its grammar and a good part of its vocabulary) is intelligle to other ENglish (and non-English) speakers. If the majority of it is visual let alone lingusitic nonsense, then it has failed.

Be as unique as you wish, but why not communicate your ideas at the same time so people can at least begin to understand your uniqueness.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rudi wrote:
Kavin...Be as unique as you wish, but why not communicate your ideas at the same time so people can at least begin to understand your uniqueness.
Took your posting(s) on face-value/upfront and appreciate observations made- perfectly fine with me, all points taken.

As regards being 'Unique'- It Takes One To Know Another - I am unique just like everybody else; it wasnt intended to come out neither as different nor unique. My writings an occupational hazard at worst & at best it is ..... Personally, I try to move from a 'me' to an-other 'centered universe'.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must agree with Rudi on this, I mean this in no way to be derogatory but I simply cannot make head nor tail of your posts, I try, but my eyes go funny.

Im a stranger mostly to punctuation and grammar myself, so don't take this to heart, but I don't read your posts as they confuse me, therefore I am probably missing some good valid points that you have.

Sorry dude.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:39 am    Post subject: c'smith Reply with quote

gotcha
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES

is an answer to the original posting
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: assholes - plague Reply with quote

at-least 60% of the 90% anti-foreigners are ''assholes'' - for now, this is the best word to describe them & of-course they exist all over the planet - just another nasty strain of the human virus.

what is annoying is most of them are 'certified' assholes like F1 - MS Certified types; & another majority of the minority show up as 'situational' assholes leaning centre right under pain_pressure/stress - who claim that ''Its Different'';
ONLY a few good beautiful people - genuinely liberal at heart + practice too- if there's anything uncivil happening around them to anybody.
Most 'Assholes' are either considered nice (backstabbers) or so called 'professionals' & so are either tolerated or simply get away with victimizing others.

Especially with ''dignified'', fine tuned assholes - its hell, like FPO & its entire student_young generations as followers who denounce demographics, nor realize 'German speakers Economic & Management prosperity' is not 'internalized (as in internalization)' in anyway & worse: want the shilling back with some internalized racism - such stupidity profoundly UN-limiting like space&time- is rationalized, so its OKAY! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the polizie station yesterday, they spoke with me in English and was polite, whilst waiting in reception afterwards, a black dude walked in and the same copper who had just spoke English to me steadfastly refused to speak English with the black guy, who was spoken too rudely.

It was pretty blatant to be honest.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chefsmith wrote:
I was in the polizie station yesterday, they spoke with me in English and was polite, whilst waiting in reception afterwards, a black dude walked in and the same copper who had just spoke English to me steadfastly refused to speak English with the black guy, who was spoken too rudely.

It was pretty blatant to be honest.


Thanks Chef, it's a good thing to point these things out! People who live in the blissful existence that NOT "being of color" affords them need to be made more aware of the ridiculous stupid shit that those of us who are experience on a daily basis, week after week, year after year. It can be exhausting, sometimes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: assholes - plague Reply with quote

kavin wrote:
ONLY a few good beautiful people - genuinely liberal at heart + practice too- if there's anything uncivil happening around them to anybody.


Well said, Mr kavin

kavin wrote:
Most 'Assholes' are either considered nice (backstabbers) or so called 'professionals' & so are either tolerated or simply get away with victimizing others.


Yes, the face of falsity.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bubbles wrote:
chefsmith wrote:
I was in the polizie station yesterday, they spoke with me in English and was polite, whilst waiting in reception afterwards, a black dude walked in and the same copper who had just spoke English to me steadfastly refused to speak English with the black guy, who was spoken too rudely.

It was pretty blatant to be honest.


Thanks Chef, it's a good thing to point these things out! People who live in the blissful existence that NOT "being of color" affords them need to be made more aware of the ridiculous stupid shit that those of us who are experience on a daily basis, week after week, year after year. It can be exhausting, sometimes.


And I guess for most of us 'As long as it's not me' then it's OK.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to alot of austrians I know, there's two grades of foreigners -
White western European =okish I guess
Turks, Asians, eastern Europeans and black people = responsible for everything wrong or bad in Austria
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="WienA"][quote="bubbles"]
chefsmith wrote:


And I guess for most of us 'As long as it's not me' then it's OK.


'Zactly! Too often in my opinion, but nothing comes before its "time". It's not "time" here, I think. Back home, I would not hesitate to remonstrate ANYone I witnessed who purposely made another feel poorly, degraded or persona non grata due to their 'foreign' appearance or (lack of) language skills. Had a few scuffles and got a few stitches here and there, but I refuse to let ignorant folk rule in my sphere and knuckleheads aren't always that big on verbal communication. Sometimes the pursuit of decency has a cost. Better to enlighten them or call them out, otherwise they continue to spread their worthless un-enlightenment.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chefsmith wrote:
According to alot of austrians I know, there's two grades of foreigners -
White western European =okish I guess
Turks, Asians, eastern Europeans and black people = responsible for everything wrong or bad in Austria


This is what's so sad, here and everywhere, when scapegoats need to be found...knuckleheads prefer to follow where led because thinking is too troublesome. History seems to show that avoidance of honestly critical self-introspection and reconciliation, on a 'societal level' is potentially dangerous to itself and all involved. Stupidity sucks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbles,

Well said, no need to say more
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deleted due to info overload

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Is Austria Anti-Foreigner? Reply with quote

Search wikipedia about this Freedom Party (FPÖ) and their chairman Heinz-Christian Strache.
You'll understand.. They do..

Any foreigners will be washed out if they win the next election.. I'm Crying!
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