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September 6, 2010 at 7:40 pm #1402samueljclemensMember
Hi there,
I’m new to these forums, which I’ve been pouring over for the last few days; this is my first post, and I hope it’s not too much of a doozy.
I’m a U.S. citizen, about 30 days into a 90/180 visit here. My girlfriend of five years is an Austrian citizen, and I have, some might say idiotically, quit my job and sold most of my possessions to move here. (Please, no grief about this! Love makes you do crazy things!)
I am a teacher by training, credentialed to teach special education in California. I also speak German passably well, but struggle to understand Austrian dialect.
The goal, at this point, is to find a way to stay legally in the country, although if the timing works out that I perhaps have to hop back and forth to the States once or twice, it won’t be the end of the world. Note that my goal is not necessarily to land the awesomest or most well-paying job, but to get legal permission to stay here.
As I find myself continually befuddled by the immigration labyrinth, I wanted to put it out to the experts. As a Drittstaatsanhöriger, is there absolutely no possible way that I will qualify for work permit/residency through work as an English teacher? Oder doch? Can one get any type of long-stay visa while studying for TEFL or CELTA certification? For example, if I took the CELTA class at bfi, would that be grounds for me to stay beyond 90 days? Is it possible for an American to legally establish himself as a Selbststandiger?
I apologize if these seem like basic questions. I have been going round and round on the internet and my mind is so full of bureaucratese I feel sick. I’m sure you all remember what it’s like from here…any help would be most appreciated!
Best, David
September 7, 2010 at 3:54 am #1811SilviaMemberWelcome David.
Since you are a certified teacher you may be able to get a key worker Visa. Try VBS and all the International schools.
https://www.virtualvienna.net/main/modules.php?name=Web_Links&l_op=viewlink&cid=26
You don’t need a work permit to teach English, but you do need one to form classes.
Get Married! 🙂
It is not as easy as it used to be, but it is a lot easier if you want to stay here with your girlfriend.
Good Luck!
September 7, 2010 at 7:38 am #1812samueljclemensMemberHi Silvia, thanks for the tips! I have to say that it’s pretty awesome that this little community exists!
I tried applying at the AIS, VIS, and DIS during the summer. One of them was even hiring a special education teacher, but I guess I didn’t quite fit the bill… :sad:. I will definitely take a look at the VBS.
When you say, “You don’t need a work permit to teach English, but you do need one to form classes,” I’m a bit confused. I’m sorry…I don’t consider myself unintelligent, but somehow when it relates to bureaucracy, my head starts bleeding, and I get distracted by that. Does this mean that I can work for a Sprachschule without a work permit, or do you just mean independently? Are you talking about Schwarzarbeit? How would I be allowed to stay in the country with no work permit?
Marriage is definitely on the table…
Anyways, thank you thank you thank you for your patience in discussing all this stuff with a noob!
September 7, 2010 at 7:42 am #1813SilviaMemberTry this article it has the basics about teaching.
https://www.virtualvienna.net/main/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=66
The Visa situation I am not sure off since so much has changed.
September 7, 2010 at 11:29 am #1814samueljclemensMemberOkay, thanks again Silvia. It seems like … you can get an Aufenthaltstitel-selbstständig only if you have a contract for a long assignment with a German company to do freelance work…I think? Do any Sprachschule actually hire Americans in this way? Is full-time (not self-employed) work at a Sprachschule ever considered SchlĂĽsselkraft?
I would love to hear from any Americans or other Drittstaatsanhörige who have recent experience finding teaching work here in English. How did you do it?
I’m looking into the marriage issue more deeply. It looks like I have to gather, apostille, and have officially translated a small heap of documents, take them to the Standesamt, wait six weeks or so, and get married. So then I am officially married to an Austrian, but once that has been accomplished, can someone explain/point me to a clear explanation of how residence and work permits can be obtained?
My web research keeps spinning me around in circles, and my emails to consulates and agencies here go ignored.
Gotta love this strange, beautiful land…
September 21, 2010 at 3:26 pm #1815samueljclemensMemberHey folks,
Still wondering if anyone (especially Americans/non-EU-types) would care to share his/her experiences if they were able to come to Austria and get permission to live here and work as an English teacher.
Anybody?
September 21, 2010 at 3:33 pm #1816finnersMemberMaybe this will help
http://www.help.gv.at/Content.Node/12/Seite.120000.html
only in German thoughSeptember 21, 2010 at 4:29 pm #1817WienAMember@samueljclemens wrote:
Okay, thanks again Silvia. It seems like … you can get an Aufenthaltstitel-selbstständig only if you have a contract for a long assignment with a German company to do freelance work…I think? Do any Sprachschule actually hire Americans in this way? Is full-time (not self-employed) work at a Sprachschule ever considered SchlĂĽsselkraft?
I would love to hear from any Americans or other Drittstaatsanhörige who have recent experience finding teaching work here in English. How did you do it?
I’m looking into the marriage issue more deeply. It looks like I have to gather, apostille, and have officially translated a small heap of documents, take them to the Standesamt, wait six weeks or so, and get married. So then I am officially married to an Austrian, but once that has been accomplished, can someone explain/point me to a clear explanation of how residence and work permits can be obtained?
My web research keeps spinning me around in circles, and my emails to consulates and agencies here go ignored.
Gotta love this strange, beautiful land…
Hi
Not sure if this is helpful but for marriage, definitely go to the official links and there are a wide range of documents and procedures. Make sure you tick them all off, speak to the registry offices and better yet ask gf to as she speaks the language and they seem more helpful that way.
Re: visas, the schlusselkraft is a key worker visa. Basically you will have to be sponsored by an employer but there are a few hurdles like minimum incomes around 2300 Euros per month (gross I think), that the employer has to declare what skills, experience etc you bring that cannot be filled by a local etc.
The MA35 on DresdnerStrasse 91 can give information but basically you can get the forms, but the employer has to submit it.
That visa is also quota managed, resets Dec 31 each year. Official timeline of a decision by authorities is 6 weeks on the website.
Umm…I remember marriage in Austria looked a bit more official, you need to have your birth certs and everything and get things translated and stuff so..if you are 30 days into your visa, beter get things moving.
Good Luck!!!
WienASeptember 21, 2010 at 5:10 pm #1818WienAMemberSome data I have from an old file (ie last week’s research!!)
Hope it helps —
Will also post some links later if I find it
ALSO you may want to go to the MA35 with your gf to enquire as hearing it from the horse’s mouth can be helpful maybe??
Work Permits – Austria
The Austrian authorities issue three types of work permits. What type of permit you can or will get depends on your personal situation, your future plans and (unfortunately) on some other factors you might not be able to influence.
• Restricted work permit ( Beschäftigungsbewilligung for one year)
• Work permit ( Arbeitserlaubnis for two years)
• Unrestricted work permit ( Befreiungsschein for five years)The restricted work permit is issued for a specific job and employer at a specific location. If you change your job or even if you just change site while working for the same company, you will need to apply for a new Beschäftigungsbewilligung. If you have worked (using the restricted permit) for one year, you can either get another restricted permit, or you can apply for the real work permit – Arbeitserlaubnis, valid for one specific district within Austria and allowing you to change employer. After two years, you can renew the work permit.
If you have made it so far and you have worked legally for five years, you can then apply for the unrestricted permit – Befreiungsschein.
If you get it, you are free to choose any job in any district of Austria for a period of five years. If you manage to find a company which supports your application, things move quickly and smoothly.
In summary: You first apply for the restricted work permit. Then you need at least two periods (2 years each) of employment with the work permit. And then, after five years, you can get the unrestricted work permit.
Does this sound complex to you? Yes, it is complex and takes a lot of time and paperwork. If you manage to find a company which supports your application, things move quickly and smoothly.
Beschäftigungsbewilligung
TAKING UP EMPLOYMENT
Depending on the respective residence title, holders have different ways of accessing the labour market. In principle, groups of people not under the provisions of the law governing the employment of foreign workers (Ausländerbeschäftigungsgesetz), such as EU citizens with the
exception of citizens of the new member states, have unrestricted access to the labour market.Also those who have a residence title of unlimited duration (”Daueraufenthalt – EG“) enjoy unrestricted access to the labour market.
A wide variety of different titles apply to people under the Ausländerbeschäftigungsgesetz.
Some important ones are presented here in brief:
1. Work permit (“Arbeitserlaubnis”)
The “Arbeitserlaubnis” is a personal permit for employees enabling them to take up employment in a specified Austrian province. It can be issued to people who legally reside in Austria.The application for the “Arbeitserlaubnis” is filed with the Public Employment Service Austria (AMS) and has a maximum validity of 2 years, but can be extended in case of a valid employment relationship. An “Arbeitserlaubnis” can also be issued to “Angehörige” (spouses
and children up to 18 years of age) if they reside legally in Austria as well.
Employers will not require any additional employment permit (“Beschäftigungsbewilligung”) for people who have a work permit.2. Restricted employment permit (“Beschäftigungsbewilligung”)
The employer will require a “Beschäftigungsbewilligung” for foreign workers who have a residence title or to whom the right of establishment applies (these are the new EU citizens) but
who have no permit to take up an employment relationship.
Relevant applications are filed by the employer / company with the Public Employment Service Austria (AMS) and have a validity of one year. In this case, employment of the foreign workers is only possible at the company filing the application. Before issuing the permit, the AMS is obliged to examine whether qualified Austrian
unemployed people or recipients of AMS benefits can be recruited (this procedure is called a “review of the labour market”).The “Beschäftigungsbewilligung” expires upon termination of
the employment relationship.
Obtaining a “Beschäftigungsbewilligung” without the necessity of a review of the labour market
• “Angehörige” (spouses and children up to 18 years of age) of foreigners who reside and are employed in Austria permanently and legally
• Migrants with “advanced integration” (compliance with Integration Agreement)
• foreigners affected by domestic violence
• established foreign youth
• new EU citizens from EU enlargement rounds I and II (see Essay 1) for employment in an
occupation in the health care and social services sector.
• specific occupational groups and key personnel. (Note: These key workers have to meet the following conditions in particular: They need to boast a professional skill in demand in Austria and earn at least 60% of the maximum ceiling on insurable earning for social security. The application for admission as a key worker must be filed by the employer with the competent provincial governor or the competent administrative district authority and
include the employer’s consent together with statement of reasons.)
• short-term employed foreigners (such as harvest helpers, between 6 weeks and 3 months)
= restricted employment permit for seasonal workers (“Beschäftigungsbewilligung für
Saisonarbeitskräfte”) (i.e. an employment license according to Art. 5 of the law governing
the employment of foreign workers)3. 3. Certificate of exemption (“Befreiungsschein”)
Also the “Befreiungsschein” is a personal permit for foreign workers entitling them to take up employment in the entire federal territory (unrestricted access to the labour market). In this case, the employer does not need a “Beschäftigungsbewilligung”. The “Befreiungsschein” is valid for five years, with applications filed with the Public
Employment Service Austria (AMS).Topic: Immigration and the world of work page 5
A “Befreiungsschein” will be issued in particular to the following groups of people:
• adults who can furnish proof of having completed five years of legal employment in
Austria over the past eight years.
• young people who have completed their final year of compulsory schooling in Austria PLUS
gainful employment of one parent of at least 3 years over the past 5 years.
• In each case, the foreigner must be entitled to settlement in Austria.
IMPORTANT: Foreigners to whom one of these preconditions applies should alternatively examine whether they are entitled to “Daueraufenthalt – EG“, which is of unlimited validity
and replaces both the “Niederlassungsbewilligung” and the “Befreiungsschein”.April 7, 2012 at 12:27 am #2032EvaMemberHi Samuel,
Im not sure if you will get this or not, it seems it has been about two years since your post but, were you ever able to find employment and a visa?
Im in the same situation except that I am not an English teacher.
April 8, 2012 at 7:01 pm #2033kavinMemberdeleted due to info overload
April 9, 2012 at 9:44 am #2034samueljclemensMemberHi there, i ended up marrying my austrian gf and getting an aufenthaltstitel for familienangehoeriger. After that it was pretty easy to find work at a vbs. in general, you should know that no list of documents is ever really complete; no matter what you bring in, you will always be asked to come back with more stuff. But as long as you bring most things before any given deadline, they are flexible with the rest.
Also, i would. check out the new rot-weiss-rot card. I don’t know a lot about it, except that it’s meant to make immigration easier for college degree holding foreigners.
But for us, marriage was the quickest and easiest option!
April 9, 2012 at 10:54 am #2035kavinMemberdeleted due to info overload
September 27, 2012 at 3:47 pm #2249adminKeymasterthanks for all the information guys
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