- This topic is empty.
-
Posts
-
I love this article, just sort of sums the whole smoking problem up…
i don’t smoke but my hubby is. but like other freedoms as long as he doesn’t step on mine, i would like him to enjoy his too.
besides, the austrians are used to sipping their coffee with a smoke. i am on with the coffee house owners a general ban would be catastrophic.As a heavy smoker myself i do think the Catastrophic for the coffee houses is a bit over the top .. if you look at Dublin, they were saying the same thing when the smoking ban was introduced .. but now they know that the effect was the opposit.. and we smokers dont mind going out getting some “fresh” air 🙄
Cheers and happy puffing
^^yes, you’re quite right, Patrik…Italy was the first European country to implement the non-smoking policy, and Italians were, and are still heavy smokers, and like the Austrians are also very used to having their coffee with a fag. But when the ban was introduced, public attitude towards it was overwhelmingly positive including those of the coffee bar owners.
I don’t reckon that certain freedoms are curtailed, just more respect is added.I also smoke too much and am always quiting. Any chance to make me cut down or make it difficult is welcomed by me. I like smoking but hate ashtrays, bad breath, cost of smoking and the damage to my health!!
@melancolia wrote:
i don’t smoke but my hubby is. but like other freedoms as long as he doesn’t step on mine, i would like him to enjoy his too.
And best of all, it is a freedom most are willing to die for!
I also smoke too much and am always quiting. Any chance to make me cut down or make it difficult is welcomed by me. I like smoking(not really) but hate ashtrays, bad breath, cost of smoking and the damage to my health!!
hehehe since my answer was almost the same I thought I would just save time and cut and paste [/quote]
Interestingly though there is no significant proof that second hand smoke causes a significant increase in lung cancer deaths to even be considered worth while, I think it’s 10 people in 1,000,000 die of lung cancer but if all of those people where second hand smokers it would only be 12 in 1,000,000 which is such a small percentage increase that it’s insignificant…..
So personally it’s just the way my clothes smell in the morning that I don’t like but I don’t see that as a reason to ban other people’s freedom just because I don’t do it.
@GeneralLea wrote:
Interestingly though there is no significant proof that second hand smoke causes a significant increase in lung cancer deaths/…/
Asthma. Loads of kids get asthma, triggered by passive smoking, lumbered with it for life. However short that is. And there are of course a load of other smoking-related illnesses to consider. Not just bad smells. Watched a family in a car last night. The father was smoking away, lighting the next cig with the previous one with his two little sons in the back seat. (we were caught in the rain and I had plenty of time to observe from where I had taken shelter) As far as I’m concerned; people who do that should be arrested and charged with slow, pre-meditated murder.
I’m an ex-smoker. And yes, the world is black and white. 😈
sownd_f_x,
you are forgiven.there are other smokers who really don’t care a lot about other people’s welfare. they just puff and don’t bother to read/mind the no-smoking sign.
😛
@GeneralLea wrote:
Interestingly though there is no significant proof that second hand smoke causes a significant increase in lung cancer deaths to even be considered worth while, I think it’s 10 people in 1,000,000 die of lung cancer but if all of those people where second hand smokers it would only be 12 in 1,000,000 which is such a small percentage increase that it’s insignificant…..
So personally it’s just the way my clothes smell in the morning that I don’t like but I don’t see that as a reason to ban other people’s freedom just because I don’t do it.
Not insignificant to the person who dies from passive smoking.
I just hate going home stinking of other people’s cigarettes – this is quite frankly disgusting and something I shouldn’t have to be subjected to – again, an issue of mutual respect.
If people want to smoke, they can, just don’t blow it in my general direction because it stinks and makes me stink. I don’t make you stink, you don’t make me stink – that is mutual respect, isn’t it?
CRAZY SITUATION:
I was at a shopping mall in Wiener Neustadt recently. There are signs up in the walkways between the shops saying “please respect the no smoking laws”. Then just 3 metres (or so) away from the sign there is walkway restaurant seating (similar to Haagen Dazs at SCS) where they are allowed to smoke because they are in a restaurant (and the seating is in a non-smoking walkway). This is simply inviting ridicule!Even going to Merkur to pick up a loaf of bread here, you can come out stinking of cigarettes from a 5 minutes shopping trip – this disgusts me.
The article is so true about “Nichtraucherzone” (in my local Merkur restaurant literally 10 seats out of 100 when in fact it should be the other way around). The other I just can’t get my head around is when the Raucherzone is right next to where they prepare the food! Dear oh lord, Bernerwürstel mit Passivrauch, bitte! Hardly Austrian Wellness-Konzept is it?
Also, an interesting chart I found from research done in 1999 – % shows number of the adult population who smoke in that country:
Austria is quite high up, considering they one of the lowest populations in the chart. Almost 10 years old but I don’t see fewer smokers around where I live, as a non-smoker the current system simply isn’t working here.
@GeneralLea wrote:
Interestingly though there is no significant proof that second hand smoke causes a significant increase in lung cancer deaths to even be considered worth while, I think it’s 10 people in 1,000,000 die of lung cancer but if all of those people where second hand smokers it would only be 12 in 1,000,000 which is such a small percentage increase that it’s insignificant…..
So personally it’s just the way my clothes smell in the morning that I don’t like but I don’t see that as a reason to ban other people’s freedom just because I don’t do it.
The crude mortality rate for lung cancer in the UK in 2005 was 55.8 per 100,000.
For source see:
http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/cancerstats/types/lung/mortality/?a=5441
- The forum ‘Life In Vienna’ is closed to new topics and replies.